rubyonrailsin

Hi,

I'm not sure what you mean by "vote", but if it passes testing, then it
has my vote.

~Steph

> Ok, I see that this worries many people. So I improved behavior: now
> when user click on the cart link, order will not create in db.
>
> @All: See
> http://railsdog.lighthouseapp.com/projects/31096-spree/tickets/1238
> and test master branch of edge (0.10.99), and vote for cherry-pick
> this to 0.10.0 if you are happy with new behavior. Today is last call.
>
> On Mar 13, 6:18 am, Sean Schofield <s...@railsdog.com> wrote:
>> I agree about the empty carts.  If there is a nice patch for this I'm
>> open to it.  I can't remember offhand why we created the order when
>> viewing the empty cart - I suspect it had to do with making things
>> REST.  To be honest, I wasn't really aware that we were creating empty
>> orders when viewing carts - its been a while since I've thought about
>> it.
>>
>> Creating an order for partial checkouts, however, is a feature.  The
>> data needs to be stored somewhere until the checkout is complete and
>> IMO, there is nothing wrong with modeling this as an incomplete order.
>>
>> Sean Schofield
>>
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>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Chris <r3ap3r2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > It's a bug in my book.  The number of empty carts doesn't tell me
>> > anything.  I can possibly see the value of tracking the ones with
>> > something in them (especially if it's tied to a user and they have the
>> > ability to come back to it later, kind of like a wish list), but plain
>> > empty carts in the database = bug.
>>
>> > The possible exception would be if the user added a product to the
>> > cart and then subsequently removed the item.  At that point the empty
>> > cart does tell me something.  But as it currently is, I don't know if
>> > someone just clicked the link which auto created an empty cart, or if
>> > the user put something in their cart, and then changed their mind.
>>
>> > My $0.02.
>> > +1 for bug
>> > -Chris
>>
>> > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:00 PM,  <st...@endpoint.com> wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>>
>> >> Will you accept patches for this?
>>
>> >> First, I think the solution of hiding the cart link when the cart is
>> empty
>> >> breaks the idea of good usability through consistency.
>>
>> >> Second, the idea of needing to create a cronjob to address bad data
>> is
>> >> just silly. The bad data shouldn't be created in the first place.
>>
>> >> Another note is that the number of empty orders isn't the proper
>> >> definition of an abandoned cart. A quick google on "what is abandoned
>> >> cart" returned the following definition at
>> >>http://multichannelmerchant.com/toolsofthetrade/abandoned_cart/.
>> >> "An abandoned cart occurs when a shopper places something in their
>> online
>> >> shopping cart and then fails to make a purchase during that visit"
>>
>> >> So, the empty carts stored in the database won't have any information
>> >> about the contents that were in the cart when the customer abandoned
>> the
>> >> site because, well, that cart is empty. There may be other entries in
>> the
>> >> database of carts with items which are true abandoned carts, but
>> combining
>> >> the two (full carts / abandoned and empty carts / abandoned) won't
>> give
>> >> the true abandoned cart rate. Furthermore, analytics should be set up
>> to
>> >> handle this anyways, in fact, this might be pretty trivial to set up
>> with
>> >> Google Analytics goal conversion and custom funnels.
>>
>> >> If I have time at some point, I will look into a patch for this,
>> assuming
>> >> it's a bug and not a "feature".
>>
>> >> ~Steph
>>
>> >>> The idea is to create an order during checkout in case you are
>> >>> interested in the number and contents of abandoned orders.  Roman is
>> >>> correct that you purge them by cron.
>>
>> >>> Sean Schofield
>>
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>> >>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Roman Smirnov <pom...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> >>>> * Don't show 'Cart' link while cart is empty
>> >>>> * Remove old, empty orders by cron
>>
>> >>>> On Mar 12, 6:12 pm, Sergei <s.n.koz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> Hi guys,
>>
>> >>>>> I encountered a problem that must have been addressed by someone,
>> but
>> >>>>> I can't find where. I'm a newbie Spree user.
>>
>> >>>>> Each time someone hits the Cart link, an empty order gets created
>> in
>> >>>>> the database, which leaves me with hundreds of empty orders a day.
>> I
>> >>>>> guess that more logical would be actually creating an order at a
>> >>>>> checkout, but I may miss something.
>>
>> >>>>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> >>>>> Cheers!
>>
>> >>>>> Sergei
>> >>>>> writelesscode.com
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